Lover Stalker Killer

Very intriguing case...Big ups to the detectives for levelling up the game on this one ...

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Good movie!

Couples with children that are divorced are, sadly, an everyday occurrence. Usually the best case scenario is when the couple stays civil, even caring, especially for the sake of their children. In this case the ex-husband cares to move to the state where his ex relocated with their children to remain a close father. This should have been a good thing for all. It wasn't. It set up a long chain of most unbelievable events involving mental harassment and murder. Dave, the father, got a new job close to his ex and kids which took a turn for the worse when he began a new relationship with a woman named Liz. Liz was independent having her own cleaning business and had some mutual interests which seemed to suit Dave who wasn't looking to settle down any time soon. What seemed innocuous enough was anything but. Stalking and harassment cases sometimes aren't as cut and dried as other criminal acts. Especially when some very real cloak and dagger methodology is employed. In this case it involved texts and emails, thousands of them, using a myriad of fake IP addresses. In time it would get past the point of threats with physical criminal acts. But from who? A person that was reported as missing who early police investigators shrugged off because she couldn't be located. Shouldn't this ramp things up to a boil? Apparently not. Early on there was zero attempts, at least as documented here, by police to apply digital forensics to the only leads they had, those texts and emails. Is this good detective work? Far from it seemingly, as hundreds ever more threatening texts and criminal acts played out. Dave, his ex, and children's lives were being totally ruined with fear for their lives. It takes a smaller Sheriff's department with a core of three very dedicated officers to break the case. A case that could have been cracked much earlier if the initial police department had made it a priority. The perpetrator was, perhaps, deemed as an unsophisticated cleaning person not capable of a long-term campaign of digital and worse criminality. Initially, just as she elaborately schemed, she was a victim too as far as that first police department roundly accepted. This changed as the three officers working the case in that small Sheriff's department were certain the author of all of this evil was not who it seemed. In fact, they were sure the supposed text and email author was very much dead. From there they knew who to truly look at. This case took far too long to break as it harmed lives irreparably in the interim. A sense of these innocent people's sorrow hangs heavily as such. It absolutely makes this a hard crime documentary to watch. It should too as law enforcement should be far more sophisticated and involved as seen in the earlier years here. That small Sheriff's department with the three amazing officers are true heroes who should be lauded for their dogged dedication and work. They serve as a shining examples of the best of their craft. I've been heavy on the story, but the way it's presented here it seems too real not to be discussed. The producers of this documentary takes the viewer on a very deep and disturbing ride genuinely exposing evil can be the person right next to you. It makes for an uneasy watch because even those who seem far from capable are actually very capable of the darkest of evil events. I have to call this a very interesting and well done expose of the darkest parts of humanity. Thankfully, our three heroes offer some much needed light which I believe anyone watching welcomes.

I love a weird true crime documentary and had read all the reviews about how shocking the twist was here, so was very excited for this. Under 5 minutes in, I said out loud "so obviously xyz has happened... surely that's not the twist that everyone is talking about?!". Unfortunately, it was - the editing here made the "twist" painfully obvious and it was agonising to have to wait another hour to see the investigating officers finally unveil what we'd worked out from the first scene. Such a shame, as it's truly a terrible case! It also felt like the true victim of this case was severely pushed into the background here and almost forgotten about. I wouldn't bother recommending!

In the old days this would be a 10 min segment of 'cold case files,' because that's literally the maximum amount of time it deserves. They can't even post a timeline. First he was dating in 2000, then he was on 'plenty of fish' (which was popular from like 2006-2010) so that doesn't narrow it down, then he's all of a sudden dating another girl. Absolutely zero timeline. It was like instead of editing and making it watchable, they were like, let's put ALL of the footage on there. This whole thing could be done in 2 sentences. Be wary of who you meet and go out with online. Make sure to get a real background check on the person you do decide to date online. End of story.

This is a single episode True Crime Documentary about a relationship gone horribly wrong. After two weeks a man's ex-girlfriend becomes a living nightmare for him and the people he cares about. The escalation of behavior rivals any fictional, Fatal Attraction movie, you will ever see. Real life interviews with the key players, including the victims and the police investigating the case are the center-pieces of this Documentary. There are some real recordings and archival footage. The documentary is not terrific, but at least it was not drawn out to multiple episodes like so many other bad ones.

This was a crazy stalking case with a twist. Now the twist seemed fairly obvious to me very early on but nonetheless the utter insanity of the perp was enough to keep me watching in the hope that they would be brought to justice. Now, if I can figure the twist so early (I aint no Sherlock) then I cannot understand how the original police investigation so utterly failed to even consider the possibility. Personally I have been the object of a stalkers attention and let me tell you their relentlessness is almost impossible to comprehend. How can somebody be so utterly dedicated and thorough?! They are real world Terminators. They cant be bargained with, they don't feel sympathy and they will not stop ever until you or they are dead (or in this case captured). This is the most acute stalking case I've ever seen and its craziness alone is worth the watch.

We were 5 people watching it and we were able to guess the end since the beginning. Really boring documentary and unnecessary long. All the history can be explained in 10 minutes top. It does not make any sense that a documentary that has to demand your attention all the time, became a boring explanation of facts that were foretold since the beginning. Really surprised how this documentary has such a high rating considering how this genre has been successful for so many years. Since the "large" reveal happened, there was no point to actually keep watching the documentary. This documentary rises a question: are policemen that stupid?

Let's get this out of the way first - there are a couple of twists here that are hard to see coming, given the way the proceedings play out and only the interference of modern tech and some brainy people could have made a difference. This is a story of online dating gone W-I-L-D in the early 2010s, and it felt incredibly difficult to take sides in this case, at least initially.. and I'll tell you why. For starters, the no-strings-attached guy was so quick to get back on the dating platform right after he'd been through a life-threatening situation that happened due to someone he met virtually. If it were me, I'd just delete the whole thing altogether and vanish from the digital space forever (..which is way easier to do than to deal with crazy stalkers for years). Also, the piece wants to keep you on edge, so the distancing feels somewhat intentional. The re-enactments, while giving you visual insights, go somewhat overboard in the latter acts of the piece, making them a tad too cinematic for my liking. I also began to wonder early on why one of the "supposed" victims wasn't extensively interviewed, but I got my answer as we moved into the second act. Thanks to a trio of "good guys", the real criminal is brought to justice in a fantastic instance of (ethical?) bait & wait. It also justified the presence of the real victim's mother, giving her the space to redeem her daughter's reputation. Happy for her. Netflix is seriously exploring all of these crazy stories from the past few decades in the hope of keeping its true-crime category relevant. I'd say it's working to some extent.